Comments on: J.Crew Catalog: Diversity or Racism? https://heartifb.com/jcrew-catalog-diversity-or-racism/ Independent Fashion Bloggers Thu, 15 Feb 2024 08:03:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Rite https://heartifb.com/jcrew-catalog-diversity-or-racism/#comment-75426 Mon, 03 Dec 2012 23:12:37 +0000 https://heartifb.com/?p=19798#comment-75426 I just see local children w model. Why is there always a spin about racism? People want to embrace other cultures and this is doing just that. Why is it negative? She’s beautiful they are beautiful. It’s photography and fashion and art. It’s real folks. It’s real life. Why throw in a token white kid if they don’t fit in there just to not look racist? That card is really over played. Lets just love everyone of all colors and cultures. And if black and white should not be photographed together that is a problem . You are the one bringing racism into this. It’s tough being a white person these days . Whew! All white people (White Americans? European Americans? Etc etc) are not prejudice! Stop the insanity! I’m Italian and if someone was in Italy and took a photo with darling local Italain kids I would never jump to the conclusion it was racist!! And there are some white people who are in inner cities and other countries helping out! Damn them? They should not get credit??

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By: steve https://heartifb.com/jcrew-catalog-diversity-or-racism/#comment-56392 Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:02:08 +0000 https://heartifb.com/?p=19798#comment-56392 In reply to madeleine gallay.

Finally someone who’s not ultra politically correct….there are people who waste their entire lives hunting down these perceived injustices to humanity….as if by ‘exposing’ these offenders they have somehow changed the world. Sometimes a photo is just a photo. Stop looking for things that might not be there. If you really want to help, there are dozens of brazen human atrocities that go on every year…champion one of those! (ie Syria)

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By: garry https://heartifb.com/jcrew-catalog-diversity-or-racism/#comment-56353 Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:14:43 +0000 https://heartifb.com/?p=19798#comment-56353 I totally agree with you! Can’t we all just appreciate a beautiful photo without crazy analytic angle and always pulling the racist card!This is note a college course in “what does this picture say!”

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By: Amy https://heartifb.com/jcrew-catalog-diversity-or-racism/#comment-55771 Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:36:46 +0000 https://heartifb.com/?p=19798#comment-55771 When I studied abroad in Jordan, visiting various sites such as Jerash, my parents and I encountered a group of schoolgirls on a fieldtrip. They were so excited to talk with a real, live American (I speak Arabic so we could converse) and the teacher and all of them wanted pictures with my mother and I in front of the scenery. My father had to juggle almost 25 digital cameras to get everyone’s wish in, including mine to have a memory of the acquaintances I made. Does that make me racist?

I didn’t put any of these pictures online, out of respect for my own privacy and that of others. That doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

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By: Fashionable in Montreal https://heartifb.com/jcrew-catalog-diversity-or-racism/#comment-55763 Sat, 02 Jun 2012 23:57:33 +0000 https://heartifb.com/?p=19798#comment-55763 In reply to Fashionable in Montreal.

Sorry, auto correct got the better of me. The penultimate sentence should state “especially if they are blonde and fair skinned”.

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By: Fashionable in Montreal https://heartifb.com/jcrew-catalog-diversity-or-racism/#comment-55761 Sat, 02 Jun 2012 23:54:27 +0000 https://heartifb.com/?p=19798#comment-55761 Hi Jennine,

I truly appreciate the concern you have expressed – we live in a troubled world far from fair and just. It is only with awareness building and advocacy that behaviours can change – not an easy task.

But at times, I believe that we can also over-interpret situations and behaviours because we are socially conscious or because we are not necessarily culturally experienced or informed. This, from my perspective, is one such situation. Here’s why:

I have spent most of my professional life working for the UN in various countries. I was very lucky to have had a chance to work in Asia (Thailand, Viet Nam and Cambodia). I was there with my family including my then 2 year old son. Back than he had blonde curly hair ( I am also blonde). Everywhere we went we were followed and I would very, very frequently be asked if people could take pics with my son.

On one occasion, while visiting a temple in Bangkok, we encountered several classes of schoolchildren who were picking up the leaves around the temples. I must have spent at least half an hour on a bench, posing, while one after another Thai school girls took turns taking pics with us.

I was then asked by one of the teachers whether my son would join the class in taking the class picture. As a result I have this incredibly touching and beautiful pic of my little boy surrounded by Thai kids sitting on the steps of a pyramid-like temple (not unlike the one on the J Crew catalogue cover) which I wish I could share here.

All this to say, that while your Google research did not yield anything on taking pics with foreigners, in Asia this is really a common occurrence (especially if they are blind and fair skinned). It is actually seen as a good omen (only surpassed by having your picture taken with a Buddist monk).

All the very best to you.

Danina of Fashionable in Montreal

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By: Marcia Carteret https://heartifb.com/jcrew-catalog-diversity-or-racism/#comment-55389 Thu, 31 May 2012 13:59:33 +0000 https://heartifb.com/?p=19798#comment-55389 Hi Jennine – I was referring to this sentence in your blog post:

“They show interracial couples in their bridal, and have Black, White, Asian, Latino models that regularly grace their catalogs…”

In other words referring to black and white (skin colors) and Asian and Latino which are cultural groups as if they are parallel terms. So in other words, African American (Somali, South African, etc. would be keeping an apples-to-apples comparison. European American instead of white.

The term little brown brother syndrome can refer to any situation where people are being ethnocentric and viewing their own culture as somehow more real and complex than others’. Common in all examples of colonialism, but also a tendency of people from more technologically “developed” countries to think of “developing” countries’ cultures in this way. Not because people are overtly racist but because it is natural to prefer your own culture and the advantages of wealthier nations like the US obviously seem preferable. I know you don’t want a long involved post here, but as always poverty is really at the core of the diffences/disparities anyhow but we don’t talk about poverty in America we talk about racism/skin color. People just need to think in broader terms and the reaction to the J Crew catalog will resonate most with people who have buy too easily the idea of white Americans being racist and ignoring diversity. The purpose of the catalogue is only to present visual images, and thus “diversity” is appropriately presented in visual ways (ie skin color, eye shape, etc). I just thought the criticism of the children image was a bit over the top. Unless the caption read, “Stylish American visitors introduce the locals to fashion” or something like that, it’s hard to see that posing with cute kids is particularly imperialistic.
Thanks for listening. Your post sparked some important conversation beyond the buttons and bows of fashion. Hurrah!

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By: CC https://heartifb.com/jcrew-catalog-diversity-or-racism/#comment-55145 Wed, 30 May 2012 01:28:36 +0000 https://heartifb.com/?p=19798#comment-55145 In reply to Shin.

I totally agree with you! Can’t we all just appreciate a beautiful photo without crazy analytic crap and insults?

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By: Shin https://heartifb.com/jcrew-catalog-diversity-or-racism/#comment-55144 Wed, 30 May 2012 01:20:16 +0000 https://heartifb.com/?p=19798#comment-55144 I’m so tired of these kind of posts or any posts blaming fashion for eating disorders, racism and cultural stereotypes. Sometimes, when you see a beautiful photograph, you just appreciate it for what it is. In this case, a beautiful couple enjoying their trip with local children. How is that racist or imply racism? They’re not depicting these children in a degrading manner or as “accessories”. They genuinely look like they’re enjoying their time and absorbing their culture. Personally, I love pictures like this that tell me a story about other cultures while displaying beautiful clothes and local people. There’s nothing wrong with that.
To me, it’s the perfect setting to showcase clothing. Nobody (except people who make a big deal out of nothing) would cry “Look! White people using minorities for their personal gain”. This is absolutely bullshit.

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By: CC https://heartifb.com/jcrew-catalog-diversity-or-racism/#comment-55141 Wed, 30 May 2012 00:54:47 +0000 https://heartifb.com/?p=19798#comment-55141 I don’t believe it is racist at all, it is a beautiful photo and J Crew always shows such diversity. It is saying nothing bad about the children at all, it is glorifying them and their beauty! The definition of racism is: “hatred or intolerance of another race” is this photo showing hatred towards the race? no. Is it showing intolerance? no. It is showing beauty, and that for sure is not racism.

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